Sub Prime Mess Cramps Cash Flow
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Posted By: AZ Moderate Posted on: Mar. 2, 2008 at 11:20 PM |
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For each of us as individuals and family units there is a tradeoff: day-to-day vs. “the golden years”.
For most wage earners, the day-to-day, or cash flow category is the most urgent. We have to put gas in the tank, food on the table, pay the utilities, put clothes on our back, perhaps take in a movie or eat out on occasion, and so on.
If there is something left over from the paycheck, perhaps we can put it toward “the Golden Years”. Savings, IRA/401K retirement plans, property investment, stocks and bonds, things of that nature are our “financial mass” that will hopefully support us when we no longer receive a paycheck.
The point here is that if you are able to build a financial mass for your future, it is much preferable that it not be raided to make up for cash flow deficiencies during the earning years.
It seems that there is a detectable trend toward letting the mortgage payment slide while keeping up with credit card payments when it comes to a showdown between long term financial goals and putting food on the table.
“Seven years in the credit-counseling business didn't prepare Ann Estes for the alarming trend she began noticing last fall: As her clients' mortgage bills became unaffordable, a growing number of them began paying their credit card bills before — and sometimes instead of — their mortgages.
"‘We've never seen anything like this’ says Estes, who counsels clients by phone from her office in Richmond, Va. ‘Their homes are at risk, and they know it. But people say, “I don't want to let my credit cards go because that's my cash flow.”
“Across the nation, credit counselors are reporting the same trend. Credit bureau analyses of consumer payment data show that financially squeezed borrowers have begun paying their credit card and car bills before their mortgages. That's a striking reversal from the norm, one that reflects rising desperation. It suggests that some people essentially have given up trying to stay current with their mortgages and instead are focused on using credit cards to squeak by.”
“During the past year, credit card debt has ballooned most rapidly in parts of the nation where the economy is particularly weak, including California, Florida, Arizona and Nevada, says Mark Zandi, chief economist for Moody's Economy.com.”
“The growing reliance on plastic may explain why revolving debt — most of which is on credit cards — rose at a seasonally adjusted annual rate of 7.8%, to a record $943.5 billion, in 2007 compared with a 6.1% adjusted rate the year before, according to the Federal Reserve.”
"’A lot of people are exhibiting a kind of fatalistic behavior to their mortgages,’ says Douglas Hammond, outreach programs director at Alliance Credit Counseling. ‘They can't make their mortgage payment, so why (try to) make it at all? “Let's keep my car, make my payment on my credit card, so I have some way of feeding my family.” ‘ " ( More Americans using credit cards to stay afloat, By Kathy Chu, USA TODAY)
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Mar. 3, 2008 at 10:21:37 AM
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| Good article I feel for the young people right now, it is a shame that this country didn't have the foresight on the housing loans and the market manipulation that was going on with the so called investors that manipulated it. It seems that the people feel as long as they pay their credit cards they will have some kind float in case they need it. Back in my day if there was a crash crunch you could get a quick low interest loan against your equity in your home if you needed. The banks now are only looking out for themselves, which is a mistake in the grand scheme of things. I believe the banks are a major contributor to what went on here. They need to step up and lower the interest rates across the board from charge cards to home loans. Instead they raise the rates, and if you are late they raise again and if you go over limit they penalize some more. The way they are doing business it seems they don’t want to recover their money from their customers they want to bury them |
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Mar. 3, 2008 at 01:18:37 PM
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[This is a reply to comment by Patricia L Johnson on Mar. 3, 2008 at 07:18:24 AM]
Patricia L Johnson
Mar. 3, 2008 at 07:18:24 AM I remember the names of those four states - California, Florida, Nevada and Arizona becuase I wrote a piece about the mortgage mess back in December The four states have foreclosure laws that are different than the rest of the country and at the time I... View this Comment Good article with excellent points, Patricia L. Johnson. This particular point is one of my favs because we live in such an illusion in this country; an illusion of great proportions, and ever so sophisticated./span>/span> /span> “It didn’t take us long to find our house and we couldn’t wait until closing when we would finally become home owners – or should I say interested parties since we didn’t actually own anything except the two sets of keys in our hand.”
We off-handedly refer to ourselves as “home owners” when in fact the lender is our home owner. But it makes us feel more prosperous than we in reality are.
Which brings up another point that I have railed about previously in connection with our growing illusion: the real estate industry used to trade in houses; for the last quarter of a century or so, it has traded in homes. I don’t think so. A house, yes – it is a piece of real estate. A home – no! A home is what a person or family makes of a house. A realtor cannot sell you a home, but it plays subtley more powerfully on your subconscious. A home conjures up a warm and fuzzy background that makes the selling easier. A house is a barn for humans. Just another brick in our house of illusion.
But don’t get me started …
It looks like Kathy Chu tapped the same sources for her article – or perhaps your article for that matter. Nicely done. |
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Mar. 3, 2008 at 01:29:51 PM
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[This is a reply to comment by know it All on Mar. 3, 2008 at 10:21:37 AM]
know it All
Mar. 3, 2008 at 10:21:37 AM Good article I feel for the young people right now, it is a shame that this country didn't have the foresight on the housing loans and the market manipulation that was going on with the so called investors that manipulated it. It seems that the... View this Comment “/span>Good article I feel for the young people right now …”/span> Ya Know it All, absolutely. We should be educating our people from the early years on things financial and economic. But don’t you think that this is a case of benign neglect in our educational system?
“The banks now are only looking out for themselves, which is a mistake in the grand scheme of things. I believe the banks are a major contributor to what went on here.”
The cultivated ignorance is a rich mother lode that just keeps growing. What a gold mine for the manipulators.
“The way they are doing business it seems they don’t want to recover their money from their customers they want to bury them”
Point well taken, but I disagree. The manipulators want to plant customers in the mine shaft and cultivate more gold using them as fertilizer (strange concept, but it does grow the gold for these people).
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Mar. 3, 2008 at 02:32:49 PM
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[This is a reply to comment by AZ Moderate on Mar. 3, 2008 at 01:29:51 PM]
AZ Moderate
Mar. 3, 2008 at 01:29:51 PM “Good article I feel for the young people right now …” Ya Know it All, absolutely. We should be educating our people from the early years on things financial and economic. But don’t you think that this is a case of... View this Comment “The way they are doing business it seems they don’t want to recover their money from their customers they want to bury them”
Point well taken, but I disagree. The manipulators want to plant customers in the mine shaft and cultivate more gold using them as fertilizer (strange concept, but it does grow the gold for these people).
But ultimately they are disposable and they do bury them in their mineshaft once their uses are few. |
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Mar. 3, 2008 at 04:25:34 PM
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[This is a reply to comment by know it All on Mar. 3, 2008 at 02:32:49 PM]
know it All
Mar. 3, 2008 at 02:32:49 PM “The way they are doing business it seems they don’t want to recover their money from their customers they want to bury them” Point well taken, but I disagree. The manipulators want to plant customers in the... View this Comment We are all disposable, and that's a fact. But it is up to each of us to cover our own asses. The main point of the article, that people are so ignorant that they will suck the equity out of their homes or cash out an IRA to pay off credit cards or take a trip, is the real focus here.
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Mar. 3, 2008 at 05:41:45 PM
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| Let's talk facts...
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Mar. 3, 2008 at 05:42:30 PM
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| I blew out the margins... Damn it... Sorry!
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Mar. 3, 2008 at 07:35:51 PM
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| Actually here are some more numbers for you About 30% of all single family homes and duplexes are owned free and clear. Of all sub prime loans, 20% are 60 days past due, and heading into foreclosure. Of all Prime loans, 2.5% (going on memeory from Friday) are in forclosure. So, AA your chart is actually much more negative than reality, on this. However, the big problem isn't the mortgages in default, the trouble is falling values in the formerly hot markets. SoCal, AZ, Lost Wages, NV, and South Floriduh have large numbers of borrowers who owe more than the home is worth. What happens when those folks lose their job, or get relocated for work? Many are just giving up their homes. I read one article, from San Diego County that the sherriff was quoted that foreclosure sales were 6 fold, from a year ago, and where a year ago, 95% od the homeowners were still fighting to keep their homes, none today were. That is a sign that many Americans have given up, which is bad news for the economy. |
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Mar. 4, 2008 at 06:30:47 PM
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[This is a reply to comment by Average American on Mar. 3, 2008 at 05:42:30 PM]
Average American
Mar. 3, 2008 at 05:42:30 PM I blew out the margins... Damn it...... View this Comment a-Haa. You're the one, eh Double A. Listen, ya gotta stop blowin' those margins. You'll get a rep here at VofA. Kidding aside my friend, my brower handled it fine. It did break up that huge URL with an automatic 'carriage return', but I have seen that before and that does not cause a problem. The link did not work, for whatever reason. It seemes that a URL with certain characters will simply truncate and hence not work. I suspect that is what happened here with your link. I don't think it had anything to do with the "wrap" or no wrap per se. I'm assuming that when you say that it blew your margins that the URL was not wrapped on your browser within your comment. Did the link work for you under those conditions?
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I remember the names of those four states - California, Florida, Nevada and Arizona becuase I wrote a piece about the mortgage mess back in December http://base.google.com/base/a/1393700/D15512076792388889035
The four states have foreclosure laws that are different than the rest of the country and at the time I thought it was a huge scam, with the sole purpose being to sell the homes so they could be picked up for pennies on the dollar and resold at an exhorbitant profit.
Looks like the situation has gotten so bad these people are using their credit cards for basic needs... what a sad state of affairs.
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